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	<title>Comments on: Is ‘give them land rights’ enough? Taking the temperature of the global land debate</title>
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		<title>By: Tom Goodfellow</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tom Goodfellow]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Jun 2015 09:45:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks Eric! Very interesting. The emphasis on reducing cost (including social/community costs) rather than pursuing profits is again something I didn&#039;t hear much about at the ILC conference (though of course there were many panels I couldn&#039;t attend). This also seems to speak to the tension between developing countries&#039; necessary commitments to economic growth and the imperatives of poverty reduction and improved quality of life for poor farmers, which growth can actually undermine.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Eric! Very interesting. The emphasis on reducing cost (including social/community costs) rather than pursuing profits is again something I didn&#8217;t hear much about at the ILC conference (though of course there were many panels I couldn&#8217;t attend). This also seems to speak to the tension between developing countries&#8217; necessary commitments to economic growth and the imperatives of poverty reduction and improved quality of life for poor farmers, which growth can actually undermine.</p>
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		<title>By: Eric Gutierrez</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Eric Gutierrez]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 May 2015 12:08:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Tom,
I heard about this at the Yale Food Sovereignty Conference in 2013. If I remember correctly, Harriet Friedmann talked about how to change the perverse incentives or subsidies for farmers to produce food and use land in unecological ways -- i.e. that more short-term and predictable profit can be made from using industrially-manufactured fertilizers, using GMO varieties, or supplying meat to McDonalds. In other words, rather than participate autonomously in the market, farmers get trapped in input markets where they get linked upstream and downstream to environmentally harmful practices. She didn&#039;t discuss silver-bullet alternatives, but emphasized how there is room for piecemeal, incremental changes, like protecting the commons, sharing machines, pooling community labour, or reducing costs rather than just pursuing profit. 
Another presentor (Van der Ploeg) discussed reducing dependency on external resources (like loans  from banks and loansharks), and increasing reliance on internal resources already held by the community. He also talked about the difference between a local &#039;peasant marketplace&#039; as opposed to a global market controlled by &#039;food empires&#039; -- which I think is a crucial distinction often missed when so-called market models are discussed.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Tom,<br />
I heard about this at the Yale Food Sovereignty Conference in 2013. If I remember correctly, Harriet Friedmann talked about how to change the perverse incentives or subsidies for farmers to produce food and use land in unecological ways &#8212; i.e. that more short-term and predictable profit can be made from using industrially-manufactured fertilizers, using GMO varieties, or supplying meat to McDonalds. In other words, rather than participate autonomously in the market, farmers get trapped in input markets where they get linked upstream and downstream to environmentally harmful practices. She didn&#8217;t discuss silver-bullet alternatives, but emphasized how there is room for piecemeal, incremental changes, like protecting the commons, sharing machines, pooling community labour, or reducing costs rather than just pursuing profit.<br />
Another presentor (Van der Ploeg) discussed reducing dependency on external resources (like loans  from banks and loansharks), and increasing reliance on internal resources already held by the community. He also talked about the difference between a local &#8216;peasant marketplace&#8217; as opposed to a global market controlled by &#8216;food empires&#8217; &#8212; which I think is a crucial distinction often missed when so-called market models are discussed.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Goodfellow</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tom Goodfellow]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 May 2015 16:49:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Eric 

Many thanks for this - &#039;creating new exchange institutions different from the market model&#039; does indeed seem to be an important priority if we are to avoid the inequitable outcomes that so often accompany market-based land reforms. But what form might such exchange institutions take? This point you raise seems to me to be quite a different thing from the efforts to make customary land uses more sustainable and inclusive, which we heard quite a lot about at the conference. Innovative approaches to exchange was something we heard less about - would be very interested to hear of any examples!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Eric </p>
<p>Many thanks for this &#8211; &#8216;creating new exchange institutions different from the market model&#8217; does indeed seem to be an important priority if we are to avoid the inequitable outcomes that so often accompany market-based land reforms. But what form might such exchange institutions take? This point you raise seems to me to be quite a different thing from the efforts to make customary land uses more sustainable and inclusive, which we heard quite a lot about at the conference. Innovative approaches to exchange was something we heard less about &#8211; would be very interested to hear of any examples!</p>
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		<title>By: Eric Gutierrez</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Eric Gutierrez]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2015 16:02:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thank you Duncan, for an interesting and timely blog that raises uncomfortable issues that need to be confronted.  

It is a pity indeed that discussions on food sovereignty were omitted, where a key discussion is on how land has been transformed into a commodity, to be bought and sold in the open market. This I believe is what makes the land-grabbing or land-investing phenomenon a central problem of development. 

Food sovereignty activists point out that land loses its central role in food security the more it becomes a commodity. Land can be bought, or grabbed, not to produce food or be a base for shelter, but to park capital to be sold later when prices rise (the technical term I think is ‘financialisation’). Instead of being located at the beginning of the food chain, land is transformed into a platform where commodities from somewhere (e.g. animal feed) are transformed into another commodity (e.g. meat or wool) destined for somewhere else. &#039;Food miles&#039; expand tremendously - I can only buy bananas from Central America at my local Tesco&#039;s. Over time, land loses its value as an autonomous source of life, especially when migration to the cities, rather than owning a plot, become seen as the best way to survive. 

Such transformations may not necessarily be bad, especially if, as many economists argue, it leads to remarkable wealth creation. But it also can’t be denied that turning land into a commodity creates and reproduces inequality as well – it is arguably an origin of the have-lots and have-nots. But furthermore, turning land into a commodity, argue food sovereignty advocates, makes it difficult to slow down processes that create climate change. Thus, while there is an ‘invisible hand’ for creating wealth and maximising profit, there is no similar ‘hand’ invisible or not for resolving the paradox of poverty amidst plenty, or in pursuing the protection of the planet. 

Yes there is a need, certainly, “to replace the teetering paradigm of a secure legal title”. The shoots of new directions can be found too in the food sovereignty debates – ie.  challenging commodification from below; experimentation on agro-ecology; or creating new exchange institutions different from the market model.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you Duncan, for an interesting and timely blog that raises uncomfortable issues that need to be confronted.  </p>
<p>It is a pity indeed that discussions on food sovereignty were omitted, where a key discussion is on how land has been transformed into a commodity, to be bought and sold in the open market. This I believe is what makes the land-grabbing or land-investing phenomenon a central problem of development. </p>
<p>Food sovereignty activists point out that land loses its central role in food security the more it becomes a commodity. Land can be bought, or grabbed, not to produce food or be a base for shelter, but to park capital to be sold later when prices rise (the technical term I think is ‘financialisation’). Instead of being located at the beginning of the food chain, land is transformed into a platform where commodities from somewhere (e.g. animal feed) are transformed into another commodity (e.g. meat or wool) destined for somewhere else. &#8216;Food miles&#8217; expand tremendously &#8211; I can only buy bananas from Central America at my local Tesco&#8217;s. Over time, land loses its value as an autonomous source of life, especially when migration to the cities, rather than owning a plot, become seen as the best way to survive. </p>
<p>Such transformations may not necessarily be bad, especially if, as many economists argue, it leads to remarkable wealth creation. But it also can’t be denied that turning land into a commodity creates and reproduces inequality as well – it is arguably an origin of the have-lots and have-nots. But furthermore, turning land into a commodity, argue food sovereignty advocates, makes it difficult to slow down processes that create climate change. Thus, while there is an ‘invisible hand’ for creating wealth and maximising profit, there is no similar ‘hand’ invisible or not for resolving the paradox of poverty amidst plenty, or in pursuing the protection of the planet. </p>
<p>Yes there is a need, certainly, “to replace the teetering paradigm of a secure legal title”. The shoots of new directions can be found too in the food sovereignty debates – ie.  challenging commodification from below; experimentation on agro-ecology; or creating new exchange institutions different from the market model.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Goodfellow</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tom Goodfellow]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2015 14:58:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[NB here is a short video on the &#039;Social Tenure Domain Model&#039; mentioned on the blog - as a shortcut, there is a bit 4 minutes in on the &#039;contiuum of land rights&#039;... worth a look: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hEE6sOj5sUk]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NB here is a short video on the &#8216;Social Tenure Domain Model&#8217; mentioned on the blog &#8211; as a shortcut, there is a bit 4 minutes in on the &#8216;contiuum of land rights&#8217;&#8230; worth a look: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hEE6sOj5sUk" rel="nofollow">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hEE6sOj5sUk</a></p>
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