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		<title>By: Belinda Dodson</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Belinda Dodson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2013 16:53:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sounds like Robert Chambers c. 1983! But I look forward to reading the book and using it in my university-level teaching in development geography.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sounds like Robert Chambers c. 1983! But I look forward to reading the book and using it in my university-level teaching in development geography.</p>
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		<title>By: solemu</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2013 15:13:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Great post! Congrats to Anderson, Brown and Jean for listening and sharing the results. It&#039;s definitely timely and pertinent to move forward on a real aid effectiveness agenda.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post! Congrats to Anderson, Brown and Jean for listening and sharing the results. It&#8217;s definitely timely and pertinent to move forward on a real aid effectiveness agenda.</p>
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		<title>By: Satic</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Satic]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2013 11:14:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Sorry, aid slammers,&quot; recipients have positive feelings about aid.  Until they start thinking about its longer-term and society-wide impacts, at which point they become negative.

Sounds like quite a comfortable finding for the aid slammers, sadly.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Sorry, aid slammers,&#8221; recipients have positive feelings about aid.  Until they start thinking about its longer-term and society-wide impacts, at which point they become negative.</p>
<p>Sounds like quite a comfortable finding for the aid slammers, sadly.</p>
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		<title>By: Nora Lester Murad, Palestine</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Nora Lester Murad, Palestine]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2013 13:50:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[CDA&#039;s excellent work is powerful because it is global. There are many national reports drawing similar conclusions. For example, Dalia Association in Palestine did a 3-min film with aid recipients&#039; airing their grievances that is on the home page at www.dalia.ps, and their advocacy work includes a report of grassroots civil society&#039;s complaints and recommendations for improving the aid system so that it respects Palestinians&#039; rights.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CDA&#8217;s excellent work is powerful because it is global. There are many national reports drawing similar conclusions. For example, Dalia Association in Palestine did a 3-min film with aid recipients&#8217; airing their grievances that is on the home page at <a href="http://www.dalia.ps" rel="nofollow">http://www.dalia.ps</a>, and their advocacy work includes a report of grassroots civil society&#8217;s complaints and recommendations for improving the aid system so that it respects Palestinians&#8217; rights.</p>
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		<title>By: Jacqueline Simone Ambose</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jacqueline Simone Ambose]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2013 05:28:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Aloha from Maui

I look forward to reading this book.
Ernest Sirolli gave a presentation about development at TEDxEQChCh
&quot;Truly Sustainable Economic Development&quot;. His message was the same, &quot;listen&quot; rather than going into poor countries with pre conceived ideas of what will work.
His talk can be seen on Youtube.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aloha from Maui</p>
<p>I look forward to reading this book.<br />
Ernest Sirolli gave a presentation about development at TEDxEQChCh<br />
&#8220;Truly Sustainable Economic Development&#8221;. His message was the same, &#8220;listen&#8221; rather than going into poor countries with pre conceived ideas of what will work.<br />
His talk can be seen on Youtube.</p>
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		<title>By: Marcus Jenal</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Marcus Jenal]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2013 02:44:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thank you for this review. The report has been sitting on my &#039;to read&#039; pile but I haven&#039;t managed to actually start reading. 
When reading through your review and especially when looking at the table you provided, it is astonishing how strongly this corresponds with our findings from a series of discussions bringing together market development practitioners and experts from the fields of complexity sciences (e.g. Dave Snowden and Shamim Bodhanya) and systems thinking (e.g. Richard Hummelbrunner and Elizabeth Dunn). We will present a synthesis report soon, it will be published by the SEEP Network.
One thing that does not get enough prominence in our report, though, is the strong need for contextual adaptation, although this is also something that complexity thinking is very clear about: complex systems (like communities) are strongly embedded in their history and context. Thanks for reminding us about that!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for this review. The report has been sitting on my &#8216;to read&#8217; pile but I haven&#8217;t managed to actually start reading.<br />
When reading through your review and especially when looking at the table you provided, it is astonishing how strongly this corresponds with our findings from a series of discussions bringing together market development practitioners and experts from the fields of complexity sciences (e.g. Dave Snowden and Shamim Bodhanya) and systems thinking (e.g. Richard Hummelbrunner and Elizabeth Dunn). We will present a synthesis report soon, it will be published by the SEEP Network.<br />
One thing that does not get enough prominence in our report, though, is the strong need for contextual adaptation, although this is also something that complexity thinking is very clear about: complex systems (like communities) are strongly embedded in their history and context. Thanks for reminding us about that!</p>
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		<title>By: Reclaim Education</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Reclaim Education]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2013 22:02:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for this Duncan. Again it would be great if Oxfam Education were interested in sharing the complexities described with UK schools and the Global Learning community. At the moment UK schools and teachers are instructed by Oxfam to teach that all aid is good and all recipeints are smiling faces (often disembodied in more ways than one) who express no emotion other than gratitude.

Please pass on your review to Oxfam Education and plead with them to trust schools that they can comprehend this level of complexity and that both Oxfam and the UK teachers and students will benefit from it!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for this Duncan. Again it would be great if Oxfam Education were interested in sharing the complexities described with UK schools and the Global Learning community. At the moment UK schools and teachers are instructed by Oxfam to teach that all aid is good and all recipeints are smiling faces (often disembodied in more ways than one) who express no emotion other than gratitude.</p>
<p>Please pass on your review to Oxfam Education and plead with them to trust schools that they can comprehend this level of complexity and that both Oxfam and the UK teachers and students will benefit from it!</p>
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		<title>By: Isabella Jean</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Isabella Jean]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2013 20:04:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hello Matt,

You raise a great point about how much people in recipient communities know about the sources (and reasons!) behind some of the &quot;projects&quot; that have materialized in their communities, villages, towns and countries over the years. 

Certainly, in all twenty listening exercises we were struck by how savvy many recipients and observers of aid were about the motivations behind donor actions, explicit and implict agendas, and the evolution of aid approaches that they have seen overtime. Of course, we also spoke to a number of people in recipient communities that did not know any details about the &quot;who, why, how much and how&quot; invested in various aid efforts (but many did want to know more about all this).  Nevertheless, they still were able to speak from their direct, personal experience about the effects of these efforts on their families, communities and society. They reflected on how aid efforts (even those poorly understood) add up and complement (or not!) with others that came before or after. 

In Cambodia, during a listening visit to Mondulkiri province in the East, I heard a number of local people describe in detail how their lives have been affected by new roads and other infrastructure projects which most of them described as &quot;our government built for us&quot; ...with Cambodian People&#039;s Party signs displayed along each road and school (along with a few &quot;donor brands&quot; in few places). The Cambodian and expat aid workers who joined me on that listening visit knew that the roads/schools/clinics were funded by multi-lateral and bilateral donors. To us, what mattered in those particular conversations, was NOT if people could name the donor, but what they thought made a difference and how, in that case in particular - how the roads helped other aid projects become more impactful (clinics, livelihoods projects connecting to markets, etc). 

And, among the many intangible impacts of aid that the Listening Project heard about, the listening team there clearly heard about enhanced legitimacy of Cambodian government in the eyes of local citizens who saw these aid projects to be national government investments. Needless to say -- this led to many interesting discussions and reflections during listening team debriefs each evening!

Isabella / Listening Project
CDA]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello Matt,</p>
<p>You raise a great point about how much people in recipient communities know about the sources (and reasons!) behind some of the &#8220;projects&#8221; that have materialized in their communities, villages, towns and countries over the years. </p>
<p>Certainly, in all twenty listening exercises we were struck by how savvy many recipients and observers of aid were about the motivations behind donor actions, explicit and implict agendas, and the evolution of aid approaches that they have seen overtime. Of course, we also spoke to a number of people in recipient communities that did not know any details about the &#8220;who, why, how much and how&#8221; invested in various aid efforts (but many did want to know more about all this).  Nevertheless, they still were able to speak from their direct, personal experience about the effects of these efforts on their families, communities and society. They reflected on how aid efforts (even those poorly understood) add up and complement (or not!) with others that came before or after. </p>
<p>In Cambodia, during a listening visit to Mondulkiri province in the East, I heard a number of local people describe in detail how their lives have been affected by new roads and other infrastructure projects which most of them described as &#8220;our government built for us&#8221; &#8230;with Cambodian People&#8217;s Party signs displayed along each road and school (along with a few &#8220;donor brands&#8221; in few places). The Cambodian and expat aid workers who joined me on that listening visit knew that the roads/schools/clinics were funded by multi-lateral and bilateral donors. To us, what mattered in those particular conversations, was NOT if people could name the donor, but what they thought made a difference and how, in that case in particular &#8211; how the roads helped other aid projects become more impactful (clinics, livelihoods projects connecting to markets, etc). </p>
<p>And, among the many intangible impacts of aid that the Listening Project heard about, the listening team there clearly heard about enhanced legitimacy of Cambodian government in the eyes of local citizens who saw these aid projects to be national government investments. Needless to say &#8212; this led to many interesting discussions and reflections during listening team debriefs each evening!</p>
<p>Isabella / Listening Project<br />
CDA</p>
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		<title>By: Matt Greenall</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Matt Greenall]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2013 18:26:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks Dayna for that information. The book is on my to-read list, but the reason I asked that specific question was because I think, in a way, the best thing would be for people in communities  not to know or have to worry about whether it was aid, or local philanthropy, or strong community action, or government funding (maybe or maybe not aid-subsidised!) that sorted out the water problem or the school or whatever.  People who work in NGOs or ministries may have of necessity a direct interface with aid donors, but for the people further down the chain it would be great to move to a situation where the fact that there was aid is the least relevant thing about their lives.
Looking forward to reading!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Dayna for that information. The book is on my to-read list, but the reason I asked that specific question was because I think, in a way, the best thing would be for people in communities  not to know or have to worry about whether it was aid, or local philanthropy, or strong community action, or government funding (maybe or maybe not aid-subsidised!) that sorted out the water problem or the school or whatever.  People who work in NGOs or ministries may have of necessity a direct interface with aid donors, but for the people further down the chain it would be great to move to a situation where the fact that there was aid is the least relevant thing about their lives.<br />
Looking forward to reading!</p>
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		<title>By: Dayna</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dayna]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2013 17:10:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[To provide some clarification: We listened to a broad range of people in aid recipient countries:  mostly people who have been or who are supposed to be the &quot;beneficiaries&quot; [a term we do not like] of aid efforts, largely at the community level in many communities in each country; people who have been involved in the provision/delivery of aid such as local leaders, government officials, local NGOs and activits, business owners, etc; and other obsevers of aid efforts such as religious leaders, randomly selected community members, academics.  We avoided &quot;dog and pony shows&quot; and many of the usual suspects and &quot;experts&quot; to hear from people who are rarely asked their opinions about the effectiveness of aid efforts. There is a whole chapter (2) on the methodology and the challenges of listening with aid providers, mostly staff of international and national/local NGOs (including Oxfam in several countries). (We also listened to the reactions and ideas of &quot;aid providers&quot; including official and private donors, aid agencies, academics and others in 16 feedback workshops around the world). 

What was striking was that there often was not a big difference between humanitarian and development programming---in fact most people do not make the distinctions that aid agencies do. And in many cases, INGOs are seen as donors and influenced heavily by the policies,  priorities, and practices of their donors.  Again, there is a whole chapter on this called &quot;Donor Policies, Donor Agendas.&quot;  We did not hear as much about government support however we did hear a lot about working with and through governments (chapter 7).  

The evidence behind the book--20 case studies/listening exercise reports--are all on our website and we welcome people to read those too.

Thanks for the reviews and good questions. We want to hear what you think needs to be done to really address the critiques, many of which are not that new, and how we will finally make more progress toward working ourselves out of jobs!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To provide some clarification: We listened to a broad range of people in aid recipient countries:  mostly people who have been or who are supposed to be the &#8220;beneficiaries&#8221; [a term we do not like] of aid efforts, largely at the community level in many communities in each country; people who have been involved in the provision/delivery of aid such as local leaders, government officials, local NGOs and activits, business owners, etc; and other obsevers of aid efforts such as religious leaders, randomly selected community members, academics.  We avoided &#8220;dog and pony shows&#8221; and many of the usual suspects and &#8220;experts&#8221; to hear from people who are rarely asked their opinions about the effectiveness of aid efforts. There is a whole chapter (2) on the methodology and the challenges of listening with aid providers, mostly staff of international and national/local NGOs (including Oxfam in several countries). (We also listened to the reactions and ideas of &#8220;aid providers&#8221; including official and private donors, aid agencies, academics and others in 16 feedback workshops around the world). </p>
<p>What was striking was that there often was not a big difference between humanitarian and development programming&#8212;in fact most people do not make the distinctions that aid agencies do. And in many cases, INGOs are seen as donors and influenced heavily by the policies,  priorities, and practices of their donors.  Again, there is a whole chapter on this called &#8220;Donor Policies, Donor Agendas.&#8221;  We did not hear as much about government support however we did hear a lot about working with and through governments (chapter 7).  </p>
<p>The evidence behind the book&#8211;20 case studies/listening exercise reports&#8211;are all on our website and we welcome people to read those too.</p>
<p>Thanks for the reviews and good questions. We want to hear what you think needs to be done to really address the critiques, many of which are not that new, and how we will finally make more progress toward working ourselves out of jobs!</p>
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